Podcast

How Merkel Gets It Right With Refugees

2015 Global Thinker Chris Catrambone and 2011 Global Thinker Saskia Sassen discuss how Europe will benefit from the influx of migrants — if only it will let them in.

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In this week’s Global Thinkers podcast, Migrant Offshore Aid Station (MOAS) co-founder Chris Catrambone and Columbia sociology professor Saskia Sassen share firsthand experiences and offer fresh perspectives on the refugee crisis. FP Executive Editor for Web Ben Pauker hosts.

About the participants:

Christopher Catrambone is a 2015 Global Thinker and the co-founder of the Malta-based Migrant Offshore Aid Station (MOAS), which sails a former fishing trawler to offer food, water, and medicine to Mediterranean migrants in need. Having founded it in 2013, Catrambone has used millions of his own fortune to fund the organization, staffed by humanitarian and security experts. Their ship, the Phoenix, also escorts refugees to shore to begin the asylum process. So far, Catrambone’s organization has saved some 12,000 lives. Follow him on Twitter: @cpcatrambone.

Saskia Sassen is a 2011 Global Thinker and a professor of sociology at Columbia who has researched migration, conflict, and globalization and she coined the term “global cities.” She’s the author of The Mobility of Labor and Capital: A Study in International Investment and Labor Flow, Globalization and Its Discontents: Essays on the New Mobility of People and Money, and, most recently, Expulsions: Brutality and Complexity in the Global Economy. Follow her on Twitter: @SaskiaSassen.

Ben Pauker is the executive editor for web at FP. Follow him on Twitter: @benpauker.

This podcast was recorded at FP’s annual Global Thinkers celebration in Washington, D.C.

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Ben Pauker is executive editor, online, at Foreign Policy. @benpauker

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