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The Object of McMaster’s Obsession

Mike Cernovich tries to walk the line between journalist and activist. Can he have it both ways?

German Chancellor Angela Merkel greets US President Donald Trump  prior to the start of the first working session of the G20 meeting in Hamburg, northern Germany, on July 7.
Leaders of the world's top economies will gather from July 7 to 8, 2017 in Germany for likely the stormiest G20 summit in years, with disagreements ranging from wars to climate change and global trade. / AFP PHOTO / POOL / IAN LANGSDON        (Photo credit should read IAN LANGSDON/AFP/Getty Images)
German Chancellor Angela Merkel greets US President Donald Trump prior to the start of the first working session of the G20 meeting in Hamburg, northern Germany, on July 7. Leaders of the world's top economies will gather from July 7 to 8, 2017 in Germany for likely the stormiest G20 summit in years, with disagreements ranging from wars to climate change and global trade. / AFP PHOTO / POOL / IAN LANGSDON (Photo credit should read IAN LANGSDON/AFP/Getty Images)

On this week’s first episode of The E.R., FP’s executive editor for news Sharon Weinberger is joined by Elias Groll and Jana Winter, co-authors of the FP exclusive “Here’s the Memo That Blew Up the NSC.” The memo, attributed to now-former NSC staffer Rich Higgins, is a seven-page polemic detailing a vast conspiracy to sideline the Trump White House. A source says the controversy over the memo erupted within the National Security Council when National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster became suspicious of NSC staff he suspected of leaking information to pro-Trump blogger Mike Cernovich.

Cernovich himself joins the panel to discuss his reaction to the story and his motivations for attacking McMaster.

Critics call Cernovich a vocal promoter of the alt-right, an association he now disavows. But he has made no secret of his displeasure with McMaster, including launching a website soliciting leaks casting the national security advisor in a negative light. But can Cernovich call himself a journalist while actively advocating for McMaster’s dismissal?

Mike Cernovich is a national security reporter, lawyer, and documentary filmmaker. Follow him on Twitter: @Cernovich.

Elias Groll is a staff writer at Foreign Policy, covering cyberspace and its conflicts and controversies. Follow him on Twitter: @EliasGroll.

Jana Winter is an investigative reporter based in Washington DC. She worked previously as a national security reporter at The Intercept and breaking news/investigative reporter for FoxNews.com. Follow her on Twitter: @janawinter

Sharon Weinberger is FP’s executive editor for news. She is the author of The Imagineers of War: The Untold Story of DARPA, the Pentagon Agency That Changed the WorldFollow her on Twitter: @weinbergersa.

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Sharon Weinberger is the executive editor for news at Foreign Policy. @weinbergersa

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