Your discussion question for the weekend
Your humble blogger will be away for the rest of the weekend. Before I go, I could leave you with a link to some fluff like Entertainment Weekly‘s list of celebrity bloggers (where else but her blog would you find Pamela Anderson’s statement, “I love theatre.”). But that would be wrong. Instead, I want to ...
Your humble blogger will be away for the rest of the weekend. Before I go, I could leave you with a link to some fluff like Entertainment Weekly's list of celebrity bloggers (where else but her blog would you find Pamela Anderson's statement, "I love theatre."). But that would be wrong. Instead, I want to pose a discussion question to the group. Liberal progressive bloggers are abuzz about this Ezra Klein post about a foreign policy panel over at the third concentric circle of hell Yearly Kos: [Peter] Beinart in particular has moved substantially left over the past few years, and now says things like, "What separates conservatives and progressives is the recognition that America's pathologies can threaten the rest of the world just as their pathologies can harm us. Interdependence is reciprocal. If other countries owe us more, than we owe them more. If you don't recognize the second part of that equation, than you are, indeed, in some ways, an empire." From there, he moved towards a full-throated defense of international institutions in their oft-loathed role as shackles on American autonomy. "The great triumph of the institutions built during after the Iraq War was that they constrained our power. By giving weaker nations some influence over our power, we make our power legitimate." A few years ago, it would have been inconceivable that Beinart would be anchoring a YearlyKos panel on a progressive foreign policy. Now, he's not only do it, but he's doing it from within progressivism, rather than as a critic of the crowd's opinions. The degree of convergence among the intellectuals in the foreign policy left in recent years is quite impressive, even if it's not been quite as much in evidence within the class of foreign policy experts who advise Democratic candidates. (emphasis added)This prompts Duncan "Atrios" Black to ask: "Why is there a 'foreign policy community?'" This prompts Matthew Yglesias to observe: It's a good question. The consequences of its existence don't seem to be particularly beneficial. Steve Clemons is talking at a panel on foreign policy, blogging, and activism and gives voice to something that I think a lot of us tend to suspect, saying he was one of the few members of said community to go on television and speak against the Iraq War not because he was the only one to think it was a bad idea, but "because everyone else was a coward." "People like me," he says, "were being fed quite a bit of inside information from people who were every bit as horrified" but very few people said anything. And it's true -- alongside the famously pro-war elements of the establishment, there's a shockingly large number of people at places like Brookings, CSIS, the CFR, etc. where if you try to look up what they said about Iraq it turns out that they said . . . nothing at all. His perspective, he says, is that Washington is "a corrupt town." From that perspective, he says that "the political-intellectual arenas is essentially a cartel" -- a cartel that's become extremely timid and risk-averse in the face of a neoconservative onslaught -- and "blogs allow smart people to break the cartel." That all seems very true to me, and I'm not sure what I have to add.So, in addition to seeing commenter answers to Atrios' question, I have one of my own: If there are no virtues to a monolithic, cartelistic 'foreign policy community,' what are the virtues of an ideologically uniform, progressive foreign policy community? [But they were right about Iraq!!--ed. Kudos to them, but I'm afraid that this merely deepens my skepticism. Beware of foreign policy hedgehogs -- particularly those seeking ideological conformity within their ranks.] Oh, and one last thought -- my scant experience with Beltway insider information is that 50% of the time it's dead on, but 50% of the time it's absolute horses#$t.
Your humble blogger will be away for the rest of the weekend. Before I go, I could leave you with a link to some fluff like Entertainment Weekly‘s list of celebrity bloggers (where else but her blog would you find Pamela Anderson’s statement, “I love theatre.”). But that would be wrong. Instead, I want to pose a discussion question to the group. Liberal progressive bloggers are abuzz about this Ezra Klein post about a foreign policy panel over at the third concentric circle of hell Yearly Kos:
[Peter] Beinart in particular has moved substantially left over the past few years, and now says things like, “What separates conservatives and progressives is the recognition that America’s pathologies can threaten the rest of the world just as their pathologies can harm us. Interdependence is reciprocal. If other countries owe us more, than we owe them more. If you don’t recognize the second part of that equation, than you are, indeed, in some ways, an empire.” From there, he moved towards a full-throated defense of international institutions in their oft-loathed role as shackles on American autonomy. “The great triumph of the institutions built during after the Iraq War was that they constrained our power. By giving weaker nations some influence over our power, we make our power legitimate.” A few years ago, it would have been inconceivable that Beinart would be anchoring a YearlyKos panel on a progressive foreign policy. Now, he’s not only do it, but he’s doing it from within progressivism, rather than as a critic of the crowd’s opinions. The degree of convergence among the intellectuals in the foreign policy left in recent years is quite impressive, even if it’s not been quite as much in evidence within the class of foreign policy experts who advise Democratic candidates. (emphasis added)
This prompts Duncan “Atrios” Black to ask: “Why is there a ‘foreign policy community?'” This prompts Matthew Yglesias to observe:
It’s a good question. The consequences of its existence don’t seem to be particularly beneficial. Steve Clemons is talking at a panel on foreign policy, blogging, and activism and gives voice to something that I think a lot of us tend to suspect, saying he was one of the few members of said community to go on television and speak against the Iraq War not because he was the only one to think it was a bad idea, but “because everyone else was a coward.” “People like me,” he says, “were being fed quite a bit of inside information from people who were every bit as horrified” but very few people said anything. And it’s true — alongside the famously pro-war elements of the establishment, there’s a shockingly large number of people at places like Brookings, CSIS, the CFR, etc. where if you try to look up what they said about Iraq it turns out that they said . . . nothing at all. His perspective, he says, is that Washington is “a corrupt town.” From that perspective, he says that “the political-intellectual arenas is essentially a cartel” — a cartel that’s become extremely timid and risk-averse in the face of a neoconservative onslaught — and “blogs allow smart people to break the cartel.” That all seems very true to me, and I’m not sure what I have to add.
So, in addition to seeing commenter answers to Atrios’ question, I have one of my own: If there are no virtues to a monolithic, cartelistic ‘foreign policy community,’ what are the virtues of an ideologically uniform, progressive foreign policy community? [But they were right about Iraq!!–ed. Kudos to them, but I’m afraid that this merely deepens my skepticism. Beware of foreign policy hedgehogs — particularly those seeking ideological conformity within their ranks.] Oh, and one last thought — my scant experience with Beltway insider information is that 50% of the time it’s dead on, but 50% of the time it’s absolute horses#$t.
Daniel W. Drezner is a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and co-host of the Space the Nation podcast. Twitter: @dandrezner
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