Debate III: I pity the fools watching this debate

POST-MORTEM:  The big winner was Joe the Plumber — the rest of us are screwed.  And, if you played the drinking game below, you are also pretty hammered.  More substantively:  McCain was better on economic issues than in the first two debates.  On trade in particular, McCain wiped the floor with Obama.  Obama was wrong ...

By , a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and co-host of the Space the Nation podcast.

POST-MORTEM:  The big winner was Joe the Plumber -- the rest of us are screwed.  And, if you played the drinking game below, you are also pretty hammered.  More substantively:  McCain was better on economic issues than in the first two debates.  On trade in particular, McCain wiped the floor with Obama.  Obama was wrong on the Colombia FTA (the trendline of protection of labor leaders is improving, not worsening) and I was glad to hear McCain bring up Brazilian ethanol (that makes one of us).  Obama does well what he always does well -- try to explain his positions as clearly as possible.  Less substantively:  The split screen is going to kill John McCain -- and the way he handled the Ayers/ACORN/Lewis portion of the debate is going to kill him yet again.  Contra the post-debate commentary, I thought Obama seemed more peeved at points during this debate... but he got better as the debate went along.  Feel free to comment here on tonight's Hofstra debate about the economy.  In the interest of sanity, I will not be live-blogging it (check out Alex Massie for that), but will provide a post-mortem.  In the meantime, I offer the following Protectionist Drinking Game to make the debate go more quickly:  TAKE A SIP WHEN: Obama references jobs going overseas to China McCain references $700 billion going to countries that don't like us very much Pledges of energy independence are made by both candidates within a five-minute span Either candidate talks about the "rigorous enforcement of trade rules" McCain says something good about international trade. DO A SHOT WHEN: Obama articulates a race-to-the-bottom theory of labor or environmental standards McCain articulates a race-to-the-bottom theory of corporate taxation Either candidate promises to bring manufacturing jobs back to this country (BONUS:  finish entire drink if McCain pledges to do this and says, "it's simple" at any point during his explanation).    Obama says something good about international trade that ends with the word "but..." Sovereign wealth funds are mentioned. FINISH YOUR DRINK WHEN:  Obama says something good about international trade that does not end with the word "but..." Either candidate says the phrase "Financial Stability Forum" The Doha round is mentioned Either candidate actually names an economist during the course of an answer (Ben Bernanke doesn't count).  Enjoy... or suffer, depending on your expectations. 

POST-MORTEM:  The big winner was Joe the Plumber — the rest of us are screwed.  And, if you played the drinking game below, you are also pretty hammered.  More substantively:  McCain was better on economic issues than in the first two debates.  On trade in particular, McCain wiped the floor with Obama.  Obama was wrong on the Colombia FTA (the trendline of protection of labor leaders is improving, not worsening) and I was glad to hear McCain bring up Brazilian ethanol (that makes one of us).  Obama does well what he always does well — try to explain his positions as clearly as possible.  Less substantively:  The split screen is going to kill John McCain — and the way he handled the Ayers/ACORN/Lewis portion of the debate is going to kill him yet again.  Contra the post-debate commentary, I thought Obama seemed more peeved at points during this debate… but he got better as the debate went along.  Feel free to comment here on tonight’s Hofstra debate about the economy.  In the interest of sanity, I will not be live-blogging it (check out Alex Massie for that), but will provide a post-mortem.  In the meantime, I offer the following Protectionist Drinking Game to make the debate go more quickly:  TAKE A SIP WHEN:

  • Obama references jobs going overseas to China
  • McCain references $700 billion going to countries that don’t like us very much
  • Pledges of energy independence are made by both candidates within a five-minute span
  • Either candidate talks about the “rigorous enforcement of trade rules”
  • McCain says something good about international trade.

DO A SHOT WHEN:

  • Obama articulates a race-to-the-bottom theory of labor or environmental standards
  • McCain articulates a race-to-the-bottom theory of corporate taxation
  • Either candidate promises to bring manufacturing jobs back to this country (BONUS:  finish entire drink if McCain pledges to do this and says, “it’s simple” at any point during his explanation).   
  • Obama says something good about international trade that ends with the word “but…”
  • Sovereign wealth funds are mentioned.

FINISH YOUR DRINK WHEN

  • Obama says something good about international trade that does not end with the word “but…”
  • Either candidate says the phrase “Financial Stability Forum”
  • The Doha round is mentioned
  • Either candidate actually names an economist during the course of an answer (Ben Bernanke doesn’t count). 

Enjoy… or suffer, depending on your expectations. 

Daniel W. Drezner is a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and co-host of the Space the Nation podcast. Twitter: @dandrezner

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