Top Pentagon lawyer defends drone killings

In a rare public interview, Jeh Johnson, the Pentagon’s top lawyer, argued that the U.S. is able to target terrorists “with great precision,” in a defense of drone strikes. “Now, are we perfect? No. There have been regrettable and unfortunate losses of life, but I believe we have a pretty good track record.” A clip ...

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In a rare public interview, Jeh Johnson, the Pentagon’s top lawyer, argued that the U.S. is able to target terrorists “with great precision,” in a defense of drone strikes.

In a rare public interview, Jeh Johnson, the Pentagon’s top lawyer, argued that the U.S. is able to target terrorists “with great precision,” in a defense of drone strikes.

“Now, are we perfect? No. There have been regrettable and unfortunate losses of life, but I believe we have a pretty good track record.”

A clip of Johnson’s interview with BBC’s HARDtalk is posted online with the full interview to come later Thursday and Friday.

“I would not agree it is simply a matter of the ends justifies the means,” Johnson told the BBC’s Zeinab Badawi, who pressed him on his acceptance of civilian casualties as collateral damage.

Johnson was a key advisor to former Defense Secretary Robert Gates and now to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta but is little known to the general public. He was an early supporter of President Obama, serving on his transition team before being tapped as general counsel of the Defense Department. Johnson was instrumental in helping steer the repeal of "don’t ask, don’t tell," appearing in the Pentagon briefing room and hearings in Congress at the time.

This week, Johnson said U.S. accuracy with drone strikes, without discussing specific missions, was far better than previous generations of warfare when bomber aircraft would take out “an entire city block. We are well past that,” Johnson said.

Badawi raised objections by United Nations officials to the U.S. position, but Johnson parried, arguing,  “I would respectfully disagree… I think it is, again I think we do a very, very good job of reaching those that we target with great precision.”

Kevin Baron is a national security reporter for Foreign Policy, covering defense and military issues in Washington. He is also vice president of the Pentagon Press Association. Baron previously was a national security staff writer for National Journal, covering the "business of war." Prior to that, Baron worked in the resident daily Pentagon press corps as a reporter/photographer for Stars and Stripes. For three years with Stripes, Baron covered the building and traveled overseas extensively with the secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, covering official visits to Afghanistan and Iraq, the Middle East and Europe, China, Japan and South Korea, in more than a dozen countries. From 2004 to 2009, Baron was the Boston Globe Washington bureau's investigative projects reporter, covering defense, international affairs, lobbying and other issues. Before that, he muckraked at the Center for Public Integrity. Baron has reported on assignment from Asia, Africa, Australia, Europe, the Middle East and the South Pacific. He was won two Polk Awards, among other honors. He has a B.A. in international studies from the University of Richmond and M.A. in media and public affairs from George Washington University. Originally from Orlando, Fla., Baron has lived in the Washington area since 1998 and currently resides in Northern Virginia with his wife, three sons, and the family dog, The Edge. Twitter: @FPBaron

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