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This week, we hear a podcast that tells stories from women in the U.S. intelligence community, their challenges, and how Girl Scout cookies can sometimes be a tool on the job.

Foreign Policy recommends: Iron Butterfly 

This week on FP Playlist, we feature an episode from Iron Butterfly, produced by the National Security Institute at George Mason University and the Amazing Women of the IC. This series brings you real stories and experiences from women in the intelligence community. 

Iron Butterfly host Megan Jaffer spoke with FP Playlist about the unique experiences of each of their guests, and why retired Lt. Gen. Mary Legere goes by the code name Dragon Six. 

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About Foreign Policy Playlist:  Each week, Foreign Policy’s Laura Rosbrow-Telem will recommend one podcast from around the world and play an excerpt.  The curated show is designed to help listeners interested in the things we are—great stories, compelling interviews, and cogent analysis on international affairs—sort through the overwhelming variety of podcasts out there and find the best ones. And occasionally you’ll hear audio from our own newsroom.  FP Playlist replaces our flagship podcast First Person. You can download a new episode each Wednesday on Apple, Spotify, and all the other usual places. Love podcasts just as much as we do? Wed love to feature your favorite foreign-policy podcasts on Foreign Policy Playlist. Reach out to us by clicking on the link here.  See All Episodes

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